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About a lot of genealogy, webtree layout problem 1 month 2 days ago #1

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Greg, Hello, I have 50 genealogies, the current page layout is difficult to find,I don't know how to design templates. I can only turn to Greg.Optimizing the layout of multiple genealogies in webtree,thanl you.

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About a lot of genealogy, webtree layout problem 1 month 2 days ago #2

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Not only Greg can make suggestions ;-)
To start with, your request is not very clear yet to me.

Do you have 50 separate trees, or do you have ascendants of 50 forefathers in one tree?
Using which page is the most troublesome?
stamboom.BertKoor.nl runs on webtrees v1.7.13

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About a lot of genealogy, webtree layout problem 1 month 2 days ago #3

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Thank you, the forum is very active and I have 50 independent trees. Click on the family tree on the home page, and a vertical row of 50 family trees appears (continuing to increase). It is not convenient to find one of the trees.

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About a lot of genealogy, webtree layout problem 1 month 2 days ago #4

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Why do you have 50 independent trees? Are you selling a service to 50 families? Or have you divided your family into too many trees that should be combined into a smaller number of trees.

Since almost all of our administrators/users of webtrees only have a few trees on each website, I personally think that alternatives to a single site having a long list of trees are not very easy (or worth while) to design, but maybe someone with the right incentive can build a custom page just for your use.

Maybe a simple alternative might be to install several copies of webtrees each with a different URL and database. I think that is what some people do already!
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About a lot of genealogy, webtree layout problem 1 month 2 days ago #5

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Yes, I sell genealogical trees, hosted on my website, and I provide descent maintenance. It is too complicated to create a single webtree for each genealogy (webtree installation, upgrade, maintenance), and it is very simple to create multiple genealogies in the current webtree.

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About a lot of genealogy, webtree layout problem 1 month 2 days ago #6

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So your users have only access to one single tree. For them there is no problem.

I guess the issue is in managing the users, connecting them to the right tree in the user administration panel.


It is too complicated to create a single webtree for each genealogy


The standard way: yes. With some work it can be done easier.

What if you put the base installation in one folder, let's say 'public_html/base'. You can create a private tree there for your own tests. Give it table prefix 'base' as well.
First client, I made up Chinese surname Lam. Make folder 'public_html/lam' and a subfolder 'data'. Create symlinks for all the other folders webtrees needs to 'public_html/base'. Give that table prefix 'lam'.
This can be scripted with bash, especially if you run your own server.

So all clients have their own data, but the scripts are shared. You only need to update php scripts once in the 'base' installation.

For yourself you can create a home page with a full sorted list of all the clients with a link to go to their web page.
That list can be built from the folder names, so that needs no maintenance. Building that page should not be too difficult.
If the list becomes very large, a search function is better.
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About a lot of genealogy, webtree layout problem 1 month 2 days ago #7

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I'm very confused, I can't understand your description.
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In addition, my Chinese surname Lin, according to the address needs to create a lot of sub genealogy.

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About a lot of genealogy, webtree layout problem 1 month 2 days ago #8

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In my opinion, the main idea behind bertkoors suggestion is:

- separate the read-only webtrees core from the data which is individual for every user
- still have only one database for all webtrees installations/users (separated by the prefix)

This allows you to do a webtrees update only once and not 50 times for 50 webtrees users. For each user, it looks like he has his webtrees system alone. He still can have one or more trees in his subsystem. For you: maintenance of only one webtrees core program files, maintenance of only one database; but you need a management page for your personal needs to manage the users and to have access to their trees.
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About a lot of genealogy, webtree layout problem 1 month 2 days ago #9

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I understand your description. The 50 control panel management pages are too cumbersome.I need to frequently switch 50 control panels to manage the family tree. It will be very simple to manage 50 family trees in a webtree, but the current webtree version displays the family tree in a list, and the display of the family tree with more data is limited.

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About a lot of genealogy, webtree layout problem 1 month 2 days ago #10

Try to show menu "Family trees" only to members for all genealogies and set "no" to "Show list of family trees" at Website preferences. Maybe you must to set a example family tree, to be the default tree and show at home page, to all visitors. And then for this tree you should set to show menu "Family trees" to visitors. And users will be redirected to their genealogy after login.

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About a lot of genealogy, webtree layout problem 1 month 5 hours ago #11

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> Click on the family tree on the home page, and a vertical row of 50 family trees appears (continuing to increase). It is not convenient to find one of the trees.

The user-interface is designed for the average user.

The average user will have between 1 and 5 trees.

I guess that you want:
* visitors to be able to see a list of all trees
* members to be able to select their own tree

What do you suggest?
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About a lot of genealogy, webtree layout problem 1 month 4 hours ago #12

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Yes.
For example, the Chinese surname "王" has dozens or hundreds of sub-genealogies according to its address. If I am a clan family member of the "王" surname, I want to check all the "王" surname genealogy (tens or hundreds) and look for The ancestors are very helpful.
The surname Wang is the largest surname in China. The surname branches are huge and messy. Too many pedigrees are independent and not a single tree. Therefore, many branches of the surname Wang should be established. Everyone with the surname Wang can see it. The current template With more than 50 trees, the vertical display is not very friendly. You can design the display a little bit.

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About a lot of genealogy, webtree layout problem 1 month 28 minutes ago #13

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Nuxiong said:

The current template With more than 50 trees, the vertical display is not very friendly. You can design the display a little bit.

I think Greg is asking for you to describe how you want to change the design so that it works better for you. This of course would be a custom design so that it would not change the user interface for everyone that only has 1 to 5 trees.
Ken

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About a lot of genealogy, webtree layout problem 1 month 15 minutes ago #14

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Greg should not meet my personal needs. It would be a very good thing to compromise this function when meeting the popular needs.
ha ha
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About a lot of genealogy, webtree layout problem 4 weeks 1 day ago #15

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But do you have any ideas about how to accomplish your desire to not list all the different trees that you have created in a long list? I don’t have an understand of how I would accomplish your needs without making it harder on people who only have one tree!

If I was doing a name study of the surname Olsen, a very common name in Norway I would ask myself:

How would the casual visitor look for their family member?

I ask you: “What is the name of the trees that differentiates each “pedigree” that helps a casual visitor to select a specific tree from your list of 50 trees?”

Nothing in Norway helps to define/differentiate the various Olsen families. So in my case I could not create separate trees for the various individuals with the surname Olsen because I could not title the tree.

Therefore if I was doing a surname study on Olsen I would put all individuals with that surname into the same tree, thus allowing my visitors to only have to access one tree/database to look for a family member.

To find that family member they would have to know some set of data that would help to find them such as date of birth or death and the place they were born. This is similar to the way you search in Ancestry.com for unknown individuals.

In this case the “tree” is not a family tree but a database of people with the surname Olsen, that contain individuals that have a relationship to that surname but not necessarily to each other. webtrees can handle that !
Ken

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