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TOPIC: Help with setup, please!

Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #1

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Ok, I'm pretty tech savvy and I'm learning pretty fast, but here's the deal. I have been working on a family tree for a while now, and I ran across webtrees and it looks awesome. I've never really had a website outside of a blogger account, but I figured that I'm pretty good at this stuff, so I bought a domain name, signed up for a web host, started reading tutorials, and made a webpage. That's all been this week, basically.

Now, though, I'm stuck.

I have a webpage up and running--it's not exciting or well designed, but it's there--and I uploaded the webtrees files to the server, but (this is the embarrassing part) I can't figure out what URL to use to launch the setup wizard.

Here's the website, if you feel like laughing at me: kensusman.com

I am using bytehost for my web hosting, and it uses something called cPanel X or Vista Panel to control it. The host uses php 5.3.14 and mysql 5.5.28. It's Apache version 2.2.3.

I've been using Kompozer to create the actual pages, though I'm not sure that's relevant to this question.

I don't know what other information you want or need, but let me know and I'll try to supply it.

Help?
Last Edit: 5 years 6 months ago by ToyGuy. Reason: change spelling on bytehost
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #2

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What folder name did you use to house your webtrees files? kensusman.com/webtrees/ ?? kensusman.com/familytree/ ?? etc
setup.php will act like an index.html or index.php page and launch in the browser the first time you enter that correct URL
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #3

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Actually, I think that I need to go back and re-upload the file. I'm not sure that I uploaded the right thing.

I'll get back to you. (And thanks for the fast response...)
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #4

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ksusman wrote:
Actually, I think that I need to go back and re-upload the file. I'm not sure that I uploaded the right thing.
There are a load of files, some deeply nested. I think you can use your CPanel to do the uploads, but you'll first have to unzip the files locally as I don't think bytehost allows remote unzip. You are welcome.
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #5

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I found the INSTALL.html file buried pretty deep. Will that do what I'm looking for?
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #6

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ksusman wrote:
I found the INSTALL.html file buried pretty deep. Will that do what I'm looking for?

It's in the ckeditor folder...
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #7

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Just select the folder that contains the webtrees installation.

If you installed webtrees in a folder called "webtrees", then the URL is kensusman.com/webtrees
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #8

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All that I get when I type that in is an index page with a list of files on it. The address is webtrees.kensusman.com/webtrees.

I'm attaching a picture.
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #9

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This screendump look very odd.

1) The webtrees.zip file contains lots of sub-folers. You appear to have unzipped everything into a top-level folder.

2) The webtrees.zip file contains thousands of files. You appear to have just a small subset of them.

My guess is that you did not correctly unzip/upload the files.

Try again??
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #10

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That's what is throwing me off. I've done this twice already. When I look at the unzipped folder on my desktop, there's the setup.php file. When I look at the screen that I showed you... well, you saw it. Nothing.

I suppose that I could upload things piecemeal, but I have a feeling that would be a monster challenge to keep everything straight. I guess the culprit is the net2ftp uploader that is included with my host?
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #11

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It actually looks like I have an unzip option built in to the ftp applet. I'm going to try to unzip the file directly.
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #12

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Just before you go too far....

Why do you use a sub-domain (webtrees.kensusman.com) AND a sub-folder (/webtrees)?

Surely easier to use just one or the other?

www.kensusman.com/webtrees/

or

www.webtrees.kensusman.com/
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #13

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That question I can answer easily. I learned how to make a subdomain, so I did. And there's literally no reason aside from that. I should probably just use the folder.
Last Edit: 5 years 6 months ago by ksusman. Reason: Stupid typo
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #14

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ksusman wrote:
That question I can answer easily. I learned how to make a subdomain, so I did. And there's literally no reason aside from that. I should probably just use the folder.
@Ken
a subdomain is also "www." although most point it to the main domain.
A subdomain of "webtrees" would/could be housed in a level 2 folder under the domain, so normally
webtrees.mydomain.com is the same address as mydomain.com/webtrees although that assignment is not mandatory and the webtrees installation could be in any subdirectory you wished main-directory/programs/genealogy/webtrees etc.

Good luck on your upload and unzipping. Might work.
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #15

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Thanks for all the help, guys. I don't have it yet, but I'm going through and uploading webtrees directory by directory and, in some cases, file by file. The ftp uploader hasn't been uploading everything, so I'm just doing it manually. I guess that's what you get with a free webhost.

Anyway, I'll come back with any other questions, and to let you know if/when I get it right. Much appreciated.
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #16

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ksusman wrote:
Thanks for all the help, guys. I don't have it yet, but I'm going through and uploading webtrees directory by directory and, in some cases, file by file. The ftp uploader hasn't been uploading everything, so I'm just doing it manually. I guess that's what you get with a free webhost.
Ken, that is crazy work on your part and I can assure you is unnecessary - with ANY host. It is likely you will miss files or load them in the incorrect position or lack proper permissions. That will create more support problems and cause headaches with frequent updates.

However, your time is yours to do as you please.
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #17

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ToyGuy... you, sir, are correct about that being a crazy amount of work. I spent about two hours on it, then decided that there had to be a better way. I decided that the built in ftp app sucked, and I downloaded smartftp. Solved the problem immediately.

Then, I got screwed up on the mysql database settings. Again, since I have never made a website until this week, not a shock.

Long story less long, I got the damn thing up and it's awesome. Thanks for the help, guys. I really appreciate it.

Here's the link: kensusman.com/webtrees
Last Edit: 5 years 6 months ago by ksusman. Reason: Made the link in to a link
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #18

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Great, now you can do two things
1) clean up your PLAC hierarchy before you add any new data. To see the problem unfold, view:
kensusman.com/webtrees/placelist.php?ged=tree

2) Entirely optional (not the case with #1), you can add, at anytime you wish (or not add), any subdomain to point to that folder you've created:

Susman.kensusman.com
tree.kensusman.com
family.kensusman.com
gene.kensusman.com
webtrees.kensusman.com
etc
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #19

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Ah, that place hierarchy does seem somewhat... anarchic... I started this in familyecho, then uploaded it into RootsMagic and expanded it, and now it's here. I didn't really have much of a system until recently, and I suppose it shows! Thanks again.
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Help with setup, please! 5 years 6 months ago #20

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Hi Ken,
Regarding the place hierarchy, before you completely refactor it, you might want to read this blog post by Tamura Jones first:
www.tamurajones.net/PlaceNameStandardisationBasics.xhtml
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