This Help forum is for issues relates to the latest release (1.7.10/11/12). For issues related to development versions please use their own Help forum.
Before asking for help please read "How to request help" by clicking on that tab above here."

TOPIC: [SOLVED] Unrelated individual

Unrelated individual 2 months 2 weeks ago #1

  • thomas52
  • thomas52's Avatar
  • Online
  • Frequent
  • Western North Carolina
  • Posts: 803
While adding/building a family, I added an individual named "uk". He/she is @ uk individual
I subsequently deleted him/her from the family. Now I am unable to access the individual to delete.
I know I could "edit" the entire gedcom, but I am very reluctant to do that.
How else can I access or delete the individual?
"Failure is an amazing teacher." (L'échec est un professeur extraordinaire.)
The administrator has disabled public write access.

Unrelated individual 2 months 2 weeks ago #2

  • bertkoor
  • bertkoor's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Gold
  • Greetings from Utrecht, Holland
  • Posts: 1524
The link says:

The details of this individual are private.

If I'm not mistaken it usually says "or does not exist"
So either you have deleted it, or it's private.

Searching for a person with given name "uk" returns nothing. If you can view it, you can edit it and delete it with the menu.
stamboom.BertKoor.nl runs on webtrees v1.7.9
The administrator has disabled public write access.

Unrelated individual 2 months 2 weeks ago #3

  • fisharebest
  • fisharebest's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Administrator
  • Posts: 10909
I'm guessing you have set your site to "show private names".

> Now I am unable to access the individual to delete.

/confused.

You posted the link to this individual in your post. What do you mean "unable to access"?

When you are logged in, you should see the usual edit menu, with a delete option...
Greg Roach - This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. - fisharebest.webtrees.net
The administrator has disabled public write access.

Unrelated individual 2 months 2 weeks ago #4

  • thomas52
  • thomas52's Avatar
  • Online
  • Frequent
  • Western North Carolina
  • Posts: 803
Apparently, I entered no birth or death date so it shows private. After logging in, accessing that URL brings up a totally blank screen; no heading, background, menu, no error or privacy message, nothing. A totally white screen, with just the browser heading, URL, bookmarks, etc.
Nor does there seem to be any means in the control panel to pull up an individual. I guess it's not 'hurting' anything, and I could just leave it, but...
Attachments:
"Failure is an amazing teacher." (L'échec est un professeur extraordinaire.)
The administrator has disabled public write access.

Unrelated individual 2 months 2 weeks ago #5

  • fisharebest
  • fisharebest's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Administrator
  • Posts: 10909
You've somehow managed to create a record with corrupt GEDCOM data that breaks the page.

I'd be very keen to know what this is!

Can you find the GEDCOM from the database?

Look in the table wt_individuals.

Also look in the table wt_change for rows with a status 'pending'
Greg Roach - This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. - fisharebest.webtrees.net
The administrator has disabled public write access.

Unrelated individual 2 months 2 weeks ago #6

  • thomas52
  • thomas52's Avatar
  • Online
  • Frequent
  • Western North Carolina
  • Posts: 803
I finally figured out how to access at least a part of the record via Advanced Search:
Attachments:
"Failure is an amazing teacher." (L'échec est un professeur extraordinaire.)
The administrator has disabled public write access.

Unrelated individual 2 months 2 weeks ago #7

  • thomas52
  • thomas52's Avatar
  • Online
  • Frequent
  • Western North Carolina
  • Posts: 803
I find several changes, but no pending. (See screenshot_1.jpg)
My wt_individuals doesn't seem to go beyond I9999
Edit Edit
Copy Copy
Delete Delete
I9999
1
I9999
M
0 @I9999@ INDI
1 NAME Fred Isaac /Gershon/
2 GIVN ...

...but the individual in question is "I14260." Perhaps I'm doiing something (else) wrong?
Attachments:
"Failure is an amazing teacher." (L'échec est un professeur extraordinaire.)
The administrator has disabled public write access.

Unrelated individual 2 months 2 weeks ago #8

  • fisharebest
  • fisharebest's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Administrator
  • Posts: 10909
> My wt_individuals doesn't seem to go beyond I9999

This is a text field, not a numeric field. I14260 comes well before I99999.

The "search" option in PhpMyAdmin should help you find it.
Greg Roach - This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. - fisharebest.webtrees.net
The administrator has disabled public write access.
Do you need a web hosting solution for your webtrees site?
If you prefer a host that specialises in webtrees, the following page lists some suppliers able to provide one for you: 

Unrelated individual 2 months 2 weeks ago #9

  • thomas52
  • thomas52's Avatar
  • Online
  • Frequent
  • Western North Carolina
  • Posts: 803
Accck! Forgot the numbers don't run the 'usual' way.

Edit Edit
Copy Copy
Delete Delete
I14260
1
I14260
F
0 @I14260@ INDI
1 NAME u/k //
2 GIVN u/k
2 _MARNM ...
"Failure is an amazing teacher." (L'échec est un professeur extraordinaire.)
Last Edit: 2 months 2 weeks ago by thomas52.
The administrator has disabled public write access.

Unrelated individual 2 months 2 weeks ago #10

  • thomas52
  • thomas52's Avatar
  • Online
  • Frequent
  • Western North Carolina
  • Posts: 803
It also comes before "I9" and "I9999" ;)
Should I delete in the database? I will do nothing until you advise.
"Failure is an amazing teacher." (L'échec est un professeur extraordinaire.)
The administrator has disabled public write access.

Unrelated individual 2 months 2 weeks ago #11

  • fisharebest
  • fisharebest's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Administrator
  • Posts: 10909
0 @I14260@ INDI
1 NAME u/k //
2 GIVN u/k
2 _MARNM ...

There will be an "expand" or "show all" button that lets you see the full record.

I'm keen to see what comes after the _MARNM ...
Greg Roach - This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. - fisharebest.webtrees.net
The administrator has disabled public write access.

Unrelated individual 2 months 2 weeks ago #12

  • thomas52
  • thomas52's Avatar
  • Online
  • Frequent
  • Western North Carolina
  • Posts: 803
I found no 'expand' but clicking on 'edit' gives me:
0 @I14260@ INDI
1 NAME u/k //
2 GIVN u/k
2 _MARNM u/k /Carroll/
1 SEX F
1 CHAN
2 DATE 03 FEB 2019
3 TIME 20:57:52
2 _WT_USER Thomas Adkins
"Failure is an amazing teacher." (L'échec est un professeur extraordinaire.)
The administrator has disabled public write access.

Unrelated individual 2 months 2 weeks ago #13

  • thomas52
  • thomas52's Avatar
  • Online
  • Frequent
  • Western North Carolina
  • Posts: 803
Uh, oh, I changed the name from "u/k" to "uk" and everything went back to normal. I can access the individual page & delete it
Lesson learned & case solved..
:-/
"Failure is an amazing teacher." (L'échec est un professeur extraordinaire.)
The administrator has disabled public write access.

[SOLVED] Unrelated individual 2 months 2 weeks ago #14

  • thomas52
  • thomas52's Avatar
  • Online
  • Frequent
  • Western North Carolina
  • Posts: 803
Problem solved.
"Failure is an amazing teacher." (L'échec est un professeur extraordinaire.)
The administrator has disabled public write access.

Unrelated individual 2 months 2 weeks ago #15

  • fisharebest
  • fisharebest's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Administrator
  • Posts: 10909
I tried adding that exact same GEDCOM data into the demo site - and it works OK.


I see you have some custom module installed - research links and a descendants tab.

Can you temporarily disable them - so we can eliminate them as the cause of the problem.
Greg Roach - This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. - fisharebest.webtrees.net
The administrator has disabled public write access.

Unrelated individual 2 months 2 weeks ago #16

  • thomas52
  • thomas52's Avatar
  • Online
  • Frequent
  • Western North Carolina
  • Posts: 803
I think I may have identified the problem as the name entered "u/k." Do you wish me to take further action?
"Failure is an amazing teacher." (L'échec est un professeur extraordinaire.)
The administrator has disabled public write access.

Unrelated individual 2 months 2 weeks ago #17

  • fisharebest
  • fisharebest's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Administrator
  • Posts: 10909
That name doesn't appear to cause problems on the demo site - which is running the same version (1.7.12) as you.

Either - the problem is caused by the custom modules on your page or it is caused by something else in the core code.

Re-creating the problem - and then seeing if disabling the modules fixes it - will narrow down the problem.

If the bug is in webtrees, I want to know how to reproduce it and fix it.
If the bug is in Carmen's modules, I'm sure she wants to know the same...
Greg Roach - This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. - fisharebest.webtrees.net
The administrator has disabled public write access.

Unrelated individual 2 months 2 weeks ago #18

  • fisharebest
  • fisharebest's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Administrator
  • Posts: 10909
That name doesn't appear to cause problems on the demo site - which is running the same version (1.7.12) as you.

Either - the problem is caused by the custom modules on your page or it is caused by something else in the core code.

Re-creating the problem - and then seeing if disabling the modules fixes it - will narrow down the problem.

If the bug is in webtrees, I want to know how to reproduce it and fix it.
If the bug is in Carmen's modules, I'm sure she wants to know the same...
Greg Roach - This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. - fisharebest.webtrees.net
The administrator has disabled public write access.
Powered by Kunena Forum