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7 years 11 months ago - 7 years 11 months ago #1 by mp
Notes and privacy restrictions was created by mp
I want to restrict the visibillity of notes for visitors. Notes and shared notes should be visible for members only.

But with the privacy restriction settings for notes and all records - screenshot - I (and the not logged-in visitor) see all notes. For shared notes it works well.

What are the right settings to hide notes (NOTE) for not logged-in visitors?

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7 years 11 months ago #2 by fisharebest
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privacy restrictipns apply to level 0 data (records) and leve 1 data (facts and events) but not to level 2 data (attributes)

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7 years 11 months ago #3 by mp
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Thanks for he fast answer. But for shared notes the privacy restriction settings are working and shared notes and inline notes are on the same level 2:

1 EVEN
2 TYPE Militär
2 DATE 15 JAN 1915
2 SOUR @S75@
3 PAGE Standesamt Dresden (Sterben) Nr. 43/1915
3 DATA
4 DATE 19 JAN 1915
3 OBJE @M148@
2 NOTE Gefreiter beim Landwehr-Infanterie-Regiment 101, 12. Kompanie
2 NOTE @N10@

Is there a difference inside the handling?

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7 years 10 months ago #4 by mp
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But the privacy restriction are working for sources, repositories, media objects and shared notes etc.

Why not for notes? They are on the same gedcom level. Look at the screenshot / gedcom code from my last reply.

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7 years 10 months ago #5 by bertkoor
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If you refer to a source, repository, media object or shared note: those are separate level 0 entities, and those entities can have their own restrictions.
Inline notes on level 2 and deeper down aren't separate entities and can't have such restrictions alas.

What you could do is hide the whole fact / event by setting a restriction on it, or hide the source / shared note that specifies where you got the information from.

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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #6 by Jackie
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mp wrote: Thanks for he fast answer. But for shared notes the privacy restriction settings are working and shared notes and inline notes are on the same level 2:

1 EVEN
2 TYPE Militär
2 DATE 15 JAN 1915
2 SOUR @S75@
3 PAGE Standesamt Dresden (Sterben) Nr. 43/1915
3 DATA
4 DATE 19 JAN 1915
3 OBJE @M148@
2 NOTE Gefreiter beim Landwehr-Infanterie-Regiment 101, 12. Kompanie
2 NOTE @N10@

Is there a difference inside the handling?


Hi,

If you saw the detail of the 2 NOTE in the source document, that could be recorded in the Text field of the Source. That way, the privacy rule will be effective.

1 EVEN
2 TYPE Militär
2 DATE 15 JAN 1915
2 SOUR @S75@
3 PAGE Standesamt Dresden (Sterben) Nr. 43/1915
3 DATA
4 TEXT Gefreiter beim Landwehr-Infanterie-Regiment 101, 12. Kompanie
4 DATE 19 JAN 1915
3 OBJE @M148@
2 NOTE @N10@
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7 years 10 months ago #7 by fisharebest
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Is there a difference inside the handling?


Yes.

If the privacy rules allow you to see the fact (1 EVEN), then webtrees will attempt to display all the attributes (2 XXXX).

The text for the first note is available - and hence it is displayed.

The text for the second note may *not* available (because the NOTE record itself can have privacy rules) - and hence it may not displayed.

In this situation, you could replace your inline note with an object/link (a.k.a. a "shared note").

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7 years 10 months ago #8 by mp
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Thanks for explanation. I think I have understand it now. I have asked because inside the dropdown menu of privacy restriction settings "note" does exist (see screenshot). Therefore I was surprised that it does not work as expected.


@ Jackie
This note is not a source note (3 NOTE). It is a note for the event (2 NOTE). When I understand the gedcom rules right I should not use

1 EVEN Gefreiter
2 TYPE Militär

rather

1 EVEN [empty]
2 TYPE Militär
2 NOTE Gefreiter [Gefreiter = military rank]

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7 years 10 months ago #9 by norwegian_sardines
Replied by norwegian_sardines on topic Notes and privacy restrictions
What you may want to consider is the following (in English, sorry) is the following:

1 FACT Major
2 TYPE Military Rank
2 DATE ...

rather than using an EVENt tag since the event would be the ceremony where the FACT is the rank attained.

I also use compound words in a custom fact/event so that the final data-point (the actual thing that was attained or occurred) ends up always in the space next to the FACT (or EVEN) tag. This way any report can consistently find the same data in the same place.

For example:

If I was recording the Title of a member of Nobility I would enter:

1 TITL King of Norway
2 DATE ...

The EVENt for the coronation would be:

1 EVEN King of Norway
2 TYPE Coronation
2 DATE ...

which puts the data-point of "King of Norway" at the same location as the rank of "Major" in my example above.

Religious affiliation would be the same:

1 RELI Roman Catholic
2 DATE

Ken

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