Question Where are relationship terms actually used?

I wanted to verify translations I had done on an actual webtrees page.
Expanded Relatives report didn't have it.
Relationship chart includes something like
sister's son's wife's sister's husband's mother's husband
rather than
nephew’s sister-in-law’s father-in-law

Wes, not sure why you picked such a complicated, unrelated relationship. Greg has chosen to use the first, rather than second, as it is much easier to translate. If I ask webtrees about my BIL, I get: Relationship: brother-in-law

Stephen

ToyGuy wrote:

Wes, not sure why you picked such a complicated, unrelated relationship.

Because I wanted to see several terms on a real path to determine whether I had made mistakes in translating

Greg has chosen to use the first, rather than second, as it is much easier to translate.

A perfectly reasonable choice

If I ask webtrees about my BIL, I get: Relationship: brother-in-law

Where do you ask that, and where do I look to see things like “second cousin, twice removed” in actual use?
WWG

The relationship names are used wherever we need to display a relationship

The relationship calculator is the obvious choice(!). The other is for associates and events of close family members on the individual facts tab.

If you look at the bottom of the get_relationship_name() function, you'll see the following comment:

// TODO: break the relationship down into sub-relationships. e.g. cousin's cousin.

This needs a bit of thought, but we should be able to split the path at places like this

....[wif|hus|spo]...
....[bro|sis|sib]...
...[son|dau|chi][mot|fat|par]....

With this done, the remaining sub-relationships should fall into one of our existing "named" relationships.

Well, let me put it another way....
Where in the user interface can I make webtrees display the less common phrases that I’ve been translating, such as “third cousin twice removed” or even “great-great-uncle” ?

I can’t find a Relationship Calculator and Relationship Chart is where I got what I posted first. I’m not criticizing that, I’m just looking for something else for information’s sake.

Wes
Relationship Chart, not report, under the CHARTS menu, but once again -as Greg has said:

/ TODO: break the relationship down into sub-relationships. e.g. cousin's cousin.

This needs a bit of thought, but we should be able to split the path at places like this

But, have you tried it?

Relationship Chart:
Stephen Powell Arnold and Marcellus Arnold
Relationship: first cousin, 4 times removed

Relationship Chart:
Stephen Powell Arnold and George Walker Bush
Relationship: sixth cousin, 1 times removed


Stephen

WGroleau wrote:

I can’t find a Relationship Calculator and Relationship Chart is where I got what I posted first

We're talking about the same thing.

have you tried it?

Yes—it said “sister's son's wife's sister's husband's mother's husband”
Maybe the to-do is done in my version? Or maybe the particular path I selected is the difference. So I'll try a few other paths and see what happens.

But Wes, your "sister's son's wife's sister's husband's mother's husband" is one of those relationships that is still "to do". I mean - talk about a distant relation with no blood. usually the type of descriptions you are looking for require blood.

I would suggest you navigate to CHARTS > Ralationship Chart (third from the bottom). Put yourself in the first box (I1 ?) and then put your father's brother's son or daughter into the second box and calculate. You should ahve a first cousin. Then try it with your father's father's brother or sister's son or daughter. etc. Keep it BLOODED relationships as these are cousins, uncles, aunts, etc Other more convoluted relationships are still TO DO.
Stephen

I may try some of that. And maybe I can locate and update a PGV add-on I wrote ages ago that listed the the relationship (as reported by PGV) between the selected person and all other persons in the DB. (Hmm, that might be useful for timing comparisons).

Also, I am getting some of what I was after by studying the code that generates the names.

Greg is rewriting the relationship calculator, once everything is in the DB. However, as it is a 'nice to have' feature, it isn't high on his list of things to do right now. I have mentioned that, on a local machine, GEDITCOM finds relationships in about .5-1 seconds, even the longest thereof and reports the relationship in easy to understand terminology. Hopefully, we can do the same in webtrees, at some point in time.
Stephen