Question Nouveau GedCom

Bonjour,

Un cousin vient de me communiquer son propre GedCom pour que je puisse l'intégré à mon arbre.
La numérotation de ses individus, familles, médias, ... etc., existe déjà dans mon arbre.
Comment dois-je procéder ? Re-numéroter tous ses individus, familles, ... etc. Puis intégré dans mon webtrees dans un nouvel arbre, et enfin fusionner les deux arbres ?

Merci d'avance pour votre aide

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Good morning,

A cousin has just given me his own GedCom so that I can integrate it into my tree.
The numbering of its individuals, families, media, etc., already exists in my tree.
How do I proceed ? Re-number all its individuals, families, ... etc. Then integrated into my webtrees in a new tree, and finally merge the two trees?

thank you in advance for your help

webtrees is able to merge trees, not GEDCOM files. So the procedure is:

1) import GEDCOM into new tree
2) review the imported data (best is to remove all individuals / families you already have, otherwise you need to merge them which is not a smooth process)
3) via Control Panel: merge new tree into existing tree
4) link new individuals to existing families

Renumbering is not needed. In step 3 all records get a new xref/key/indentifier.

My personal preference is to only do step 1: import into a new tree. Then I can copy over the people & facts I want by hand. Chances are that there is a difference in style, for example how to deal with place structure, source citations, uncertain events, etcetera.

I never merged and good to know:
Renumbering is not needed. In step 3 all records get a new xref/key/indentifier.

Is there a docu for that?
for example would be nice to know: What is to be considered?
consistency of place handling, etc

You know about the German manual? It only spends 7 sentences on it:
wiki.genealogy.net/webtrees_Handbuch/Anl..._zusammenf.C3.BChren

The included picture is most helpful in what to expect:



So in short, what the Merge does is just copy over all information from one tree to the other, while making sure nothing gets overwritten. Anything present in both trees will now be present twice in the target tree of the merge. And thus the next task is to remove every duplicate. Merging records can be done, but this is still a manual (and thus labour-intensive) process. 

There is stated that renumbering has to be done in advance (just in opposite of your statment)
also, in that some lines, they do not say, that you must do manual removing of duplicates.

I see, I have to test it for my own.

Franz Frese wrote:

There is stated that renumbering has to be done in advance

And the link to execute that is right there on the form

I can not see, what you mean

Really??

webtrees image in German manual wrote:

Stammbaum neu nummerieren - ...

That is styled in blue, so it is a link.
If you click on it, it will do it.
You have the choice which tree to renumber.

Now I see what you mean with "that". So the above
"Renumbering is not needed. In step 3 all records get a new xref/key/indentifier."
is imho wrong.
But I see, what you mean: Renumbering is not needed to execute in advance of clicking on merge.
But on merge it is not auto renumbered (as you said). You have to click after merge has checked for necessary.

Ah ok, you are right, but so am I.

You don't need to do renumbering in advance. That is, the merge tool will tell you whether it is necessary or not, and it will guide you through it.

Chances are, if your tree is built with a recent version of webtrees, then all your identifiers start with X, while most other applications use I, F, S etc etc, and thus renumbering is not needed.

I now spent more sentences in the German webtrees manual about merging trees.

Always when I read something like this "eine mächtige Funktion zur Verfügung" I stop reading! (Es wird Zeit, Papier und Platz totgeschlagen.)

@Franz: it is a wiki! So do not stop reading! Start writing and correct that word, please. 

Ne, da hab ich keinen Bock drauf. Das ist mir an vielen Stellen zu viel überflüssiges gelaber, sprich was ich eh schon in der App lese, noch mal wiederholt. So etwas mag ich nicht und deshalb trage ich da auch nicht zu bei.

Franz, das ist Dein Recht das als "Gelaber" zu finden. Aber bitte verschone dann alle anderen mit Deinem abschätzigen Kommentar darüber. Sag einfach nichts dazu!

Sorry, ich war da zwar nicht gut drauf, aber es gilt für mich u.a. trotzdem als Begründung nichts zu dem Handbuch beizutragen.

Ich bin allerdings der Meinung, daß es ein Handbuch braucht.