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14 years 6 months ago #1 by diveboy
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I might just be dumb and have no idea where to find them in pgv.

how about some editors for Sources and Places ?

I'm trying to clean up my pgv data and put all the locations in for google maps, since this is my first genealogy database and 6 years of research, my very first entry was "altona" for a source, these days i understand that it should have been "Altona, Victoria, Australia".

Is there a place editor that lets me merge places or bulk replace records with one record ? and the same for sources and repositories ? instead of going through each individual and editing each fact to clean up the data ?

or is it quicker to export the gedcom, do it in my genealogy database of choice and re-upload it ?

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14 years 6 months ago #2 by kiwi
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First, can I assume that was a slip of the pen when you said

I might just be dumb and have no idea where to find them in pgv.

If not, then you're on the wrong site, this is webtrees, not pgv :-)

In webtrees there are a couple of options for what you need to do:
  1. You can use the very powerful Search & Replace tool in the Batch Update module to sort out your place names. Go to Admin - Module Administration then click on the Configuration icon beside the Batch Update item. There select your GEDCOM file, and then the Batch Update you need (Search & Replace in this case)
  2. If you have multiple sources that you want to merge together, then use the Merge Records option. Go to Admin - Data & GEDCOM Administration, then select Merge records. Here you can merge individuals, families, or sources. In each case you will be able to choose which parts of the record to keep and which to discard in the merge
Hopefully these two will solve most issues, but depending on your specific problems there may be other solutions we can suggest as well.

However, can I also gently point out that webtrees is not YET ready to be used for production data. Our aim in asking for people to test the system is to find bugs, rather than spend time helping with general user issues at this stage. Happy to help occasionally like this, but the development team are VERY busy getting webtrees to a point where it can be released. Hope you understand. All the above tips work in PGV as well (locations might vary), so that might have been a better place to ask. There are people there who can help, and they have very little development work happening just now :-(

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14 years 6 months ago #3 by diveboy
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thanks Nigel,

it was kinda two fold.

hence why it was under 'Request for New Feature' and not under pgv's forum for help :)

I'm trying not to tie up any time for people here, I promise that.

just seemed to me to be a feature that could help "noobs" in the future.

thanks again.

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14 years 6 months ago #4 by kiwi
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Do those two suggestions help?

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14 years 6 months ago #5 by ToyGuy
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How is this an RFE? As Nigel explained, the batch edit tool is quite powerful for changing all manner of text strings via the search and replace function. Sometimes, you need even more powerful grep tools to resolve multi line search and partial replace upon condition, and this is best handled with a text editor (BB-Edit, TextWrangler, etc) offline.

webtrees merge function handles minor issues of duplications in INDI, FAM or SOUR.

I don't see an RFE in your original post.
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14 years 6 months ago #6 by WGroleau
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Would it simplify, or complicate, the code to let Merge handle any level zero records?

I have a few duplicate OBJE records and I can foresee someone with a lot of users ending up with duplicate REPOs.

And if 0 PLAC is coming someday, ....

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14 years 6 months ago #7 by diveboy
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ok, let me re-explain that one.

coming from PGV, I didn't find the global search replace tool that easily until some kind soul from the webtrees dev team advised me of how to do it in webtrees.

so, down to the RFE.

in my current genealogy package (cumberlund family tree), it has some built in editors, one being for places,

this allows you to say merge place records or replace them or delete.

so say over the years I've made a mess and created the following places

collingwood
collingwod
collingwood, victoria
collingwood, australia
collingwood, victoria, australia

say I want to merge all of them to

"Collingwood, Victoria, Australia"

having a place editor that lists "places" like place hierarchy shows but being able to select all the above places and then replace/merge with a new one, would be a pretty useful tool to have.

currently the only way to do this is a search and replace on each location and then on each individual in the database from my understanding ?

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14 years 6 months ago #8 by kiwi
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WGroleau wrote:

Would it simplify, or complicate, the code to let Merge handle any level zero records?


Actually (and I had forgot too) it already does handle all of them!

It just doesn't have the FIND option for any other than INDI, FAM, and SOUR. Try entering two media references - it works fine, if merge is what you need.

I belevie what the original poster here really wanted though was Search & Replace.

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14 years 6 months ago #9 by kiwi
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currently the only way to do this is a search and replace on each location and then on each individual in the database from my understanding ?


No, thats not correct. Provding you use the Batch Update (as I described early on here) it will find and replace "Collingwood" with "Collingwood, Victoria, Australia" EVERYWHERE in one go, either automatically or one at a time (so you can verify them as you go).

I di understand your "bigger picture" though. It is NOT in webtrees plans for now, but perhasp might be possible eventually. We are looking at a complete replacement for the way places are managed, so it would not be useful to try anything like this until that is done.

When I have a similar need I turn to an old favourite of mine GEDPlace.exe . It does EXACTLY what you describe. It just has to be done off-line on your GEDCOM file. Simply Download your data (this creates a new GEDCOM file from webtrees database), run GEDPlace, then re-import it. Witth webttrees greater import speed this is no longer a hard task. I know from experience that GEDPlace makes NO other changes to your file, so it is pefectly safe to use.

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14 years 3 months ago #10 by WGroleau
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Actually (and I had forgot too) it already does handle all of them!
It just doesn't have the FIND option for any other than INDI, FAM, and SOUR. Try entering two media references - it works fine, if merge is what you need.

And if I merge two copies of the same picture, or two references to the same REPO, it will find and fix whichever ID I choose not to use?

What if two shared notes/stories cover the same event?

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14 years 3 months ago #11 by kiwi
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I don't think I've ever tried. Let us know.

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