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1 year 3 months ago #1 by mariannevanharten
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I would like to add _RUFNAME in the list of gedcomtags in the control panel in admin/tags.
Nevertheless what the meaning of _RUFNAME is.

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1 year 3 months ago #2 by bertkoor
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At what level?

0 INDI
1 _RUFNAME

Or

0 INDI
1 NAME
2 _RUFNAME

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1 year 3 months ago - 1 year 3 months ago #3 by Franz Frese
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Do not use the last variant. Use the TYPE subtag.

If you want to achive underlining of a given name part, i would use the * variant.

P.s.: You still have indis double in your data.
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1 year 3 months ago #4 by hermann
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Do not use the last variant.

But this is as it is defined in GEDCOM-L Addendum at page 24.

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1 year 3 months ago #5 by Franz Frese
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Do not use the last variant.

But this is as it is defined in GEDCOM-L Addendum at page 24.

But if you want a solution without defining a meaning, as marianne wants, I do not recommend that variant. The handling of the * for the purpose of original Rufname meaning is much more elegant and handled in webtrees and many other apps.

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1 year 3 months ago #6 by hermann
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The handling of the * for the purpose of original Rufname meaning is much more elegant and handled in webtrees and many other apps.

I agree.

Hermann
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1 year 3 months ago #7 by fisharebest
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...but if you want to use the _RUFNAME tag, you need to enable the "GEDCOM-L" extensions in the control panel.

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1 year 3 months ago #8 by mariannevanharten
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P.s.: You still have indis double in your data.

I know. Due to a mistake a tree is imported twice. I am busy to delete all duplicate individuals.

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10 months 3 weeks ago #9 by mariannevanharten
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In my tree GEDCOM-L extensions are enabled, but I don't see the _RUFNAMEs in the main screen of the persons, only in the gedcom edit mode.

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10 months 3 weeks ago - 10 months 3 weeks ago #10 by hermann
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If you edit the name of a person you should see the field "Rufname":

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10 months 3 weeks ago #11 by mariannevanharten
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I want to see this name also in the top of the screen (e.g. between the name and the ID.
Is that possible (using a hook?)

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10 months 3 weeks ago #12 by bertkoor
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The Vesta "classic" theme does this for "NICK" tags.
Perhaps you can apply parts of that module for your use.

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10 months 3 weeks ago #13 by Franz Frese
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Use the * behind the corresponding first name.

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10 months 3 weeks ago - 10 months 3 weeks ago #14 by Franz Frese
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I switched all _Rufname to nick-name.
It is not the same, but does its work.
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10 months 4 days ago #15 by Manja
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I switched all _Rufname to nick-name.
It is not the same, but does its work.

 

In Dutch, both _RUFNAME and NICK are translated with 'Roepnaam'. I find that confusing, I always have to remember to use the last line of the editing screen for my 'Roepnamen'. Is there a way to hide only the _RUFNAME tag in the editing screen, but keep the other GEDCOM-L tags visible?

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10 months 4 days ago #16 by Peter_S
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Instead of using the _RUFNAME tag you can underline the given name part with a hanging asterisk.

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10 months 4 days ago - 10 months 4 days ago #17 by bertkoor
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Instead of using the _RUFNAME tag you can underline the given name part with a hanging asterisk.

That only works for the German Rufname.
A Dutch roepnaam typically is not one of the given (baptised) names.

For example given names are Hendrik Cornelis.
Roepnaam can be Henk or Kees.

Or do you suggest to put it in the general name, eg Hendrik Cornelis Henk* Kees* /Janssen/ ?

Anyway, that requires editing the full collection. Manja simply wants to disable one Gedcom-L tag in the editing form.

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10 months 4 days ago #18 by Franz Frese
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That is simply a translation matter.
Use german or english
or
correct the translation
or
create your own translation (module)

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