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Question Inivite user - module
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Am looking option to set dedicated tree access to only accept user without scope settings in panel after registration.
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It's more like concept here to deploy more advanced solution.
Eg. in e-mail can be links to the FAQ, with strong indication for basic, and Manual
www.webtrees.net/index.php/forum/2-open-...r-without-suggestion
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And if admin change access to other trees as add, change the msg is sent or not?
Poor that in log diary no info about changes and sent msg.
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I think yes, but better test this.When admin of tree confirming new registered user.. is there message for user that he get access?
First test whether you have config for sending emails correct...
No, I don't think so.And if admin change access to other trees as add, change the msg is sent or not?
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What if far user from tree show the system for other family and he registered and you don't know the person.. coz far family?I don't know how useful this is. I just send an email with a link to the page where they can request an account thenselves.
You know what I mind, the sending invite by user from that is on tree resgistered can confirm that he know this person and know what doing not like me.. (everyone can write me is son of son from sons of sons : ) to see my data.. )
By this is strong security issue.. as I'm watching how my users doing this. Some neighbors saw how the fighting with system, then registered to see.
Should exist a list of users that are in system and not related with individuals to verify, and in future give time to set this var with msg as wholesale reminder for other do this and where.
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When I have no idea who requests access, then there are two options:
1. Request them (by email) to clarify who they are and why they want/need access
2. Ignore. The form states to give a reason, and access is given to family only. If they don't give a reason or provide the slightest evidence they are family, they should not be surprised I deny them access.
I have done both.
Most of my requests for extra info (90%) never get answered.
Most users (90%) which I did grant access have a "last logged in" date less than four weeks after their "created" date.
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For 2nd.. ignore maybe is not good solution coz role of system is grabbing data in to, soo it's "conversion problem".. and what after time.. "sory we did not know that you are from family".
I think is not complication, but good solution to invite by other as confirmation process in future, related person is responsible for contact and is a small guarantor, if not invited the other process to verify family part.
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For 1st it is not solution, coz remote.. other part of world and continent.. no time to confirmation.
For 2nd.. ignore maybe is not good solution coz role of system is grabbing data in to, soo it's "conversion problem".. and what after time.. "sory we did not know that you are from family".
I think is not complication, but good solution to invite by other as confirmation process in future, related person is responsible for contact and is a small guarantor, if not invited the other process to verify family part.
#1. What do you mean “no time to confirm” Just because they are remote and in another part of the world, I do not see that as a reason to not send them an email. NOTHING is that time sensitive that a few hours or even a day of waiting is bad!
#2. If you don’t know them, don’t want to connect with them via email, then you are not very interested in them anyway so why would you want them in your genealogy? The roll of the system is to connect you to your genealogy, make new family relationship and become better connected to your family, NOT just to collect data on people. Genealogy as a hobby is for learning about where YOU come from and connecting with your past and other branches of your family!
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For 1st it is not solution, coz remote.. other part of world and continent.. no time to confirmation.
I don't understand what you are saying. Do you know that email is available in more than one continent? I don't know how a user registration should happen if a new user doesn't have access to email. This is not possible when using webtrees.
Why is there no time for confirmation? In my opinion, genealogical research is working in the time scale of years or months. confirmation is working in the time scale of minutes or hours. This should fit. Or are you working on a genealogical process that is working in real time, so that confirmation should happen in seconds or milliseconds? Sound very interesting. Please tell me more!
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webtrees 2.1.21 (all custom modules installed, PHP 8.3.12, MariaDB 10.6) @ ahnen.hartenthaler.eu
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Please state (in clear language) what exactly is the problem you are trying to solve?
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Ok.. you all can sent meils manualy, I'm looking solution to optimize process around with automation.
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You can kindly say to them that these are precautions you use to protect information already on the database from people not associated with your family!
You, as the admin and owner of the database, need to control the data and access. Controlling the data can be achieved by not allowing automatic acceptance of data entry without review! Controlling access means setting users to view only until they have been trained, not allowed to change data without review. New subscribers can have view access until they provide enough information to link them to your tree.
I think you said you has multiple trees! WHY? Most admins only have one or two
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Trust me: you will be able to solve that when the issue is real instead of only a figment of your imagination.
I have a couple of members that got to my site because they found it via Google. I am glad they did! We have the same great-great-grand-father. No invitation would have reached them, they are too far related.
Do I trust them? Now I do. How? I truely don't recall.
Do you smell imposters? Yes you will.
Do I give edit rights? Ofcourse not. I limit what they can see and do.
Trust needs to be earned.
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