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Question Close Relatives Events display - Divorce?

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13 years 8 months ago #1 by ToyGuy
I had just added a distant cousin who, himself, had 6 marriages and 6 divorces. One of his sons has already had 3 marriages and divorces.
I noticed on the dad's page that the MARR events for his son all showed, but none of the divorces did, so I returned to the configuration page to discover that we don't currently include DIV as an event to display.

Should we?
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13 years 8 months ago - 13 years 8 months ago #2 by WGroleau
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Divorce was once an embarrassment. That’s still true for some, but for most, it’s just something that happens, and I guess for a few, it’s actually something they like to talk about. So I’d agree it should be an option for the admin.

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13 years 8 months ago #3 by kiwi
I think the intention was to keep the "Events of Close Relatives" options manageable. So the list is just three columns - Birth, Marriage, Death. Its a matter of where to stop in my view, and the simple BMD is an easy answer. If you add divorce - for which relatives - parents, grandparents, siblings, great grandparents, cousins, ....?? We've only just done a major pruning exercise on these as it is.

Then after DIV, to we add adoption, banns, bar-mitzvahs, etc etc etc?

Of course, if someone was inclined to re-code this whole feature we could abandon the list concept totally, and just allow admins to add anything they wanted. I'm sure its possible, but necessary??

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13 years 8 months ago #4 by ToyGuy
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I fully understood the apparent 'intention', but it looks pretty strange and, IMHO, is more of an oversight, to see a series of marriages reported without the related/corresponding divorce events. I'm not sure how relevant your other events listed are when considering the intimate nature of the relationship of these two events.
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13 years 8 months ago #5 by kiwi
I'm probably not a good judge as I make little use of the "Events of close relatives", have few items ticked on config, and always have it hidden by default. Also, 90% of my tree's marriage etc were 19th century, and divorce was virtually impossible (except for royalty and a few very wealthy people) in the UK before the 1920's. So I have few divorces in my data.

From a coding perspective, if we add any new items I think it should be done with a re-think of the way these are configured. It should technically be possible to allow any fact to be added, therefore removing all debate about what should be in or out.

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13 years 8 months ago #6 by fisharebest
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Each of these "close relatives events" needs quite a bit of translation effort (you would need 33 translations for "divorce of a XXX"), plus the config options themselves.

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13 years 8 months ago - 13 years 8 months ago #7 by WGroleau
Replied by WGroleau on topic Re:Close Relatives Events display - Divorce?
Can’t you just repeat a hundred and some times
Code:
//i18n: %1$s = Event (birth, marriage, death, etc.); %2%s = Relation (spouse, child, etc.) i18n::translate(%1$s of a %2$s, $event, $relation);
or maybe like UniGen.us/webtrees/config_sample_one.html

By the way, while making that sample, I noticed that the current snapshot ends each row with
</td></td> instead of
</td></tr>

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13 years 8 months ago #8 by fisharebest
Replied by fisharebest on topic Re:Close Relatives Events display - Divorce?
That's fine for the config screen, but not for the translations.

We need separate translations for male/female/unknown.

The "of a" part may also need to change, according to the specific relationship. Sorry - these techniques don't work for all languages.

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